Bit strong? Nope - they are and they actually know it, but presumably they are able to justify this on the grounds that it is for a ‘higher good’ or similar reason.
Let’s go over some of the commonly used ‘proofs’ they bring out to disprove evolution.
1. Evolution is a belief not a science and it was invented by atheists who hate God (their capitilisation not mine). Intelligent Design is a scientific theory.
First part of this statement. Wrong. To quote Wikipedia’s excellent summary: “Evolutionary biology documents the fact that evolution occurs, and also develops and tests theories that explain why it occurs. Studies of the fossil record and the diversity of living organisms had convinced most scientists by the mid-nineteenth century that species changed over time. However, the mechanism driving these changes remained unclear until the 1859 publication of Charles Darwin’s On the Origin of Species, detailing the theory of evolution by natural selection. Darwin’s work soon led to overwhelming acceptance of evolution within the scientific community”
Firstly, there are thousands of scientists who work in the field of evolutionary science who profess to be religious - christians, muslims etc. Their work is to be respected even if many, including me, don’t respect their religious beliefs. I have no problem with these scientists but creationists (I.Ders) do. It can only be assumed that these christian scientists (for example) are regarded as really atheists by the I.Ders. I’m sure that they would strongly object to this - and quite rightly so.
What gives these people the right to label scientific study a ‘belief’? Well, because they believe in I.D presumably!
Again, I have no problem with what they believe - but don’t pretend that it is science. It isn’t and no amount of lying about it will make it so.
Any scientific theory has to go through the same rigorous study process to become classified as a ‘theory’.
Again, Wikipedia has a good summary of a scientific theory. Here’s an extract:
“In scientific usage, a theory does not mean an unsubstantiated guess or hunch, as it can in everyday speech. A theory is a logically self-consistent model or framework for describing the behavior of a related set of natural or social phenomena. It originates from or is supported by experimental evidence. In this sense, a theory is a systematic and formalized expression of all previous observations, and is predictive, logical, and testable. In principle, scientific theories are always tentative, and subject to corrections, inclusion in a yet wider theory, or succession.
A difference in usage of the word “fact” contributes to confusion in regard to the meaning of “theory.” An appreciation of the various meanings of “fact” and “knowledge” can help to clarify an understanding of the meanings of “theory.”
Ok - so please show us all the observations, testable evidence for the theory of Intelligent Design. We would love to see some - but there is just the usual stony silence from them after they have finished ‘disproving’ the theory of evolution. Fine, so you believe you have disproved and discredited it - so what alternative do you offer the scientific community and the world in general?
And thus endeth the lesson ID Chapter 1 Lie 1. More to come on this… stay tuned for the next post.
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first off, i would say that both are both…everything will eventually lead to your beliefs…If you believe in evolution, it can’t but bleed into your beliefs, how can’t it? I mean, it’s obvious in your discrediting of Christianity…
Same with ID…It is a scientific discussion, but it also does bleed into your beliefs (even if it is more clearer of a bleed than evolution)
However, remember your ideology from your God does not exist article…If you really believe that nothing can be fully proven, than you cannot also say you disagree Intelligent Design because isn’t science…how do you know?
The study of science is a study to learn about our world, and when you throw ID out as a belief, than you really aren’t being open to all possibilities…and therefore aren’t really pursuing science…throwing something out of the window because you disagree with it isn’t pursuing science…that in turn shows you putting your beliefs ahead of pursuing truth…funny turn, isn’t it?
I could go into proofs for ID, but instead let me ask you this…If evolution is wrong (as you say gets “proven” to you all the time), what other options for the creation of the world are left?
Oh by the way, I’m what you would call an ID’er, and I wouldn’t say evolutionary scientists that claim they are Christians aren’t Christians…
I have to agree with the evolution not coming from atheists…I’m pretty sure Darwin has some Christian background…though I do think it’s used by atheists today as well…
In the end, science, no matter what you believe, has everything to do with your beliefs
“and when you throw ID out as a belief”
Sort of sums your point of view up doesn’t it? Yes, I.D is a belief, while Darwins theory is a scientific theory that so far hasn’t been seriously challenged as the only credible explanation for how life came to be on the planet. I don’t ‘believe’ in evolution, I accept it as the best answer we have but I am open to alternative theories.
“what other options for the creation of the world are left?”
No other theory exists at the moment but if one comes along I’d look at it seriously, but just saying ‘unless you can prove it to me then goddit’ is just ridiculous.
Would love to see your proofs for I.D too - I’m betting though, that they are all attempts to discredit natural selection rather than provide any data to back up I.D.